I can't stand outspoken atheists.

This conversation took place between me and a friend of my fathers after he posted this on my dads wall on facebook: "Todays bible study topic: Women keep your mouths shut and obey men! Timothy 2 11-14 "11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner"

This is the conversation that took place after. 

Me: I hope this was posted to be ironic.

Him: 

I am a committed atheist Deavon. Every week I post a bible verse verbatim and watch Christians apologists attempt to justify their childish beliefs. Your mother no longer speaks to me. All I did was qoute her holy book.Religion is like an opiate. It gives you a warm contented feeling and answers lifes difficult questions with simplistic aphorisms. The important questions are never answered by contented people full of childish certitude. Progress has always been made by the restlessly curious individuals who challenge themselves and the world. Feeling is easy, thinking is hard.

Me:

I am fully aware of your beliefs, which is why I was curious. I get where you are coming from but I also think your opinion is a little harsh. My mother picks and chooses what and when she believes. I choose to not be preached to, which Atheists seem to do as much as Christians. You are comforted with the thought of nothing in the same way the spiritual are with god. Careful not to become a hypocrite.And to separate thought form feeling is a silly thing to do. Where do you think thoughts stem from? OR feelings for that matter?

Him:  

Its not about seeking comfort its about seeking objective truth. Your mother claims to be a devout christian but when confronted with passages from her own holy book she basically sticks her fingers in her ears and shouts " nah nah nah I cant hear you".When faced with irrefutable evidence contradicting her preposterous view of the world she scampered away with her fingers in your ears like a frightened child. I hate ignorance and superstition. Religion has historically been against progress. Great men such as Copernicus, Galileo and Descartes faced persecution and condemnation as they attempted lift us out of the darkness of the Middle Ages. Even today we are fighting the retrograde forces of religion. How many years did Bush’s stem cell ban set science back? How many lives will ultimately be lost because of this wrongheaded decision? The Church has also been on the wrong side of the social sciences for over 1,500 years, actively promoting slavery, anti-Semitism, the torture and murder of women as witches.

Me:

Uh, yeah I get it... We are on the same page. But how are you not just as bad as a them? Forcing your beliefs, or lack there of, on everyone else? You don't want to believe in god then don't, but where do you get off thinking it's your place in anyway to tell people how they should think of what they believe, when it is something you don't? Me and my mother disagree on pretty much everything, I am not defending my mother necessarily, I am defending myself. I am not a Christian, I am pretty close to an Athiest, but I have my beliefs and I find it counter productive to shove them in other peoples faces. You are making us look bad. Look at yourself. Glass houses, stones, all that. Don't think that your way with words and 'facts' come off as anything close to wisdom. You remind me of a reverse priest.You might as well be going door to door on Saturday mornings passing out pamphlets.

Him:Going door to door would be a good idea. Ignorance and superstition should be confronted; especially an ignorance as pernicious as religion. I believe that blind faith in anything, be it your religion or your political leaders and government, will get you killed. Religion encourages lazy thinking and undermines critical thinking skills. I believe that the practice of teaching children to believe in things that cannot be proved contributes to this problem as it undermines crucial critical thinking skills. It teaches people not to question. If religionists would keep their beliefs to themselves and not try to force their totalitarian and monolithic authoritarianism on everyone else perhaps I would not be so militant. But Fox news and much of the Gop field believe they are in a culture war and beat the war drum calling for the return to Christian values; ie: the suppression of women, homosexuals, minorities and the teaching of creationism in public schools. You may lack he stomach to fight this nonsense. Maybe deep down you are like your mother and secretly welcome the idea of a firm paternalistic rule.

Me: ‎"If religionists would keep their beliefs to themselves and not try to force their totalitarian and monolithic authoritarianism on everyone else perhaps I would not be so militant" Please explain how this statement makes any sense whatsoever? How are you not forcing your beliefs on people? How are you any better than a religious person preaching? I am not Christian. I have my own issues with religion, and I understand what you are saying in a sense. But I think you get really lost in your wordy justifications that you are unaware how silly you sound. 

I believe everyone has a right to be happy and believe what they want, until it comes to them shoving it down other peoples throats which is exactly what you do. 
I clearly don't lack the stomach to stand up for what I believe in, when someone sounds over the top, pretentious, arrogant, and ignorant, I have no problem letting them know. I DID get that from my mother and as much as she pisses me off I couldn't be happier for that. Maybe you lacked compassion and imagination in your life that would make you be able to comprehend that maybe, JUST maybe there are other ideas that could be right besides your own. How selfish of you to think you hold any authority. Who are you to try to take that feeling of hope from someone. I won't pray for you, but I really hope someone does, because, shit, if they are right... you're screwed.

Him: I lack imagination? Christians continue to believe the same silly fairy tales that they were taught in Sunday school when they were 5. They have their beliefs and morals spoon-fed to them like an infant. You need to open a newspaper or check out some news sites. Open your eyes. There are theocratic governments throughout the world who murder and repress people in the name of god. There are people in this country who would love to restrict your basic liberties in jesus' name. As a libertarian I dont care what a person does. We are not the ones trying to enact sodomy laws or undermine science teaching in school. We dont blow up abortion clinics or deny people basic rights because of thir sexual orientation. We dont fly planes into buildings or blow up schools. We dont burn witches or cut off little girls clitoris'.For 1500 years christians beat, murdered and savaged non- believers. You burned our books siezed our property and drove us into exile. Now You think I an out of line for ridiculing believers? I think you are gutless and prefer to keep one safe foot in the god camp.

Me: I did all this? That's funny because I could have swore that I said I was not a christian. Either way, you are so full of hate and malice that you are no different them. what a lonely, angry life you must live. How terrible to have a such a selfish and closed mind. You condemn them for hate in the same breath you use to say you hate them. You could never ever possibly know what the answer is. NO ONE can. I think that your attitude is disgusting and your repetitive way of justifying your bullshit is even worse. I never said that the religious were always good, sometimes they are very bad. But your ignorant one sidedness is blinding you from the fact that there are a lot of really fucking good people out there who have been inspired to be so by their religion. Faith in a god gave them a purpose. What's your's? This? "Disproving" something that makes people feel good? I feel like maybe you should re evaluate Mr. Munson. You are hateful and closed minded and saying "well they started it" isn't a very good excuse. Another thing my mom was wrong about? Wisdom doesn't always come with age.

Him: What a stupid comment. Of course you didn't do all that. You just apologize for the people who do those things. I don't need an imaginary friend to inspire me to do good or act as my cosmic warden to prevent me from doing evil. I am an independent free thinking human who doesn't need a book of myths and its detestable morals spoon fed to me by some ass hat preacher to find my purpose. You obviously have a limited understanding of history and don't realize how religion has hindered human progress. The middle ages, a time when religion dominated everything, were called the dark ages for a reason. As an uneducated product of the public school system I'm sure that you are unaware of this. I'm sure you don't read newspapers and have no idea that the Christian right has seized control of one of our two major political parties and wish to rule the country using biblical principles. Santorum has gone on record not only opposing abortion and gay rights but also birth control. He also supports the return of sodomy laws. If I'm angry its because I love freedom and despise the people who try to limit it. I am open minded to logical naturalistic explanations. I'm not a silly credulous child who is willing to accept some wish washy bullshit to feel spiritual or inclusive.

Me: Oh, you again... days later. How embarrassing. 

But if you insist on keeping this going, because you are either really bored or lonely, like I suspect you are, than fine. 
You make assumptions about me that are not only wrong but incredibly insulting.
First of all, do not try to take blows at my intelligence.
I am damn smart, and my curiosity about a higher power does not change that for a second.
Second of all, I am very aware of religion in politics and if you took the time to ask me instead of making up your own mind about how I think, you'd know that I am extremely against it.
But all that aside, what I am really confused about is your point?
You have missed mine almost every time you respond, and really just prove me right with every response. My entire argument was that I think the way you shove your beliefs in peoples faces is hypocritical and mean. It isn't your place and I think it's wrong.
You think that posting your bullshit bible verses on peoples facebook, or arguing with me/my mother is going to change anything? If you are so outraged, attend a protest, write a fucking letter, anything else. The problem is, I don't think you even care if things change, I think you just feel important when you rant and you like to piss people off. I would bet my life you also enjoy pushing little children off swings, but that's another story.
You sound like an ignorant, close minded, jerk with nothing better to do than intentionally shit on what something that makes people happy. It is pathetic.
Find a better way to fight for your beliefs, because honestly, facebook is kind of an immature way to do it don't you think? If you feel so strongly about it, maybe start a blog where people who give a shit can read your pessimistic thoughts and you can all sit in the dark, pout together, until you eventually die... and nothing happens.

Him: Instead of defending your point you seem content to aim pointless insults at me. You don't know the first thing about me. I actually have a quite interesting and fulfilling life. I have raised two remarkable young women and am currently raising a third. I guess probably a major reason for my disgust and revulsion for religion stems from my respect for women and the way religion denigrates women. I am very involved with politics and am active in the skeptics community and the libertarian party. I have had dozens of letters published in various periodicals on a myriad of subjects. I posted the bible verse in your fathers site as a lark. I thought he may get a kick out of it as in the past during his neanderthal days he would go on these rants about the inferiority of women. I think he has changed since then. My estrangement from your mother stems from a friendly dialog I was having with your aunt leeann. Your mother, upset with the tone of the conversation, rudely interjected and broke off all ties from me because of my religious beliefs. I would never break ties with someone because of their personal views. One of my closest friends is a pastor and we have had many deep and meaningful discussions on theology. Sometimes I think your mother resent me for introducing her to your dad. Interestingly, 5 minutes ago, a car load of Jehovah's witnesses appeared at my door looking for my foster daughter and spewing their flavor of religious nonsense. I was actually quite amicable to them as I find it hard to be rude to silly deluded old women. I do love abusing Mormons however. My point in all this is that I would never attempt to impose my lifestyle on anyone else. The brainwashed minions of religious cults on the other hand feel that it is their god given right to impose their ridiculous religious strictures on others.

Me:  blah blah blah. I am over your (much too) wordy explanations of the same thing over and over. Take the last word if you'd like. I'm bored.

(This is clearly where I really did become bored, and felt like this shit was going nowhere.. so I decided to troll a little.)

Him:That was quick. Seems that you need to get a life. Do you ever get off of Facebook? I'm going over it over and over to try to drive my point into your thick Snoke skull. This began as a private joke between me and your father. It had nothing to do with you. Like mother like daughter I guess. You are obviously to immature to engage in an intelligent debate on the merits of religion and desperately cling on to some ridiculous shreds of magical belief despite your better judgement. I believe in confronting superstition, misogyny and prejudice head on. Why hold the hand that holds you down? No problem has ever been solved by holding a drum circle or holding hands while singing kum by la. Or praying for that matter. Grow up.

Me: I hope I am JUST like you when I do grow up. bitter, mean, close minded, and debating with 22 year olds on the internet. You are living the dream arent cha?

Him: There you go again; instead of explaining your thoughts, if indeed you have any, you instead hurl invective. You are a waste of time but since I'm sitting at the dentist waiting for my daughter and I've already browsed the readers digest selection I thought I would chat with you. Actually I'm quite happy, thank you. I have a good job and am surrounded by people who love me. Are you projecting some kind of familial dissatisfaction on me? What happened to you to make you such a miserable little troll? Ok you are not much to look at and have flunked out of school but many homely unsuccessful people are not as thoroughly unpleasant as you are. It must be something deeper and more profound that made you such a hideous little gorgon. What happened? I doubt if you were molested. I guess one of the few advantages of being physically repulsive is immunity from predators. Were you unloved?

Me: Huh. Well, I am shocked at your immaturity, with you being so old and all. 

First of all, I am fucking adorable. So I will just ignore your comments about my appearance, because I am not a vapid child and I am not easily offended when people attack the way I look.
Also, I am not sure whether or not I am supposed to be offended that you think I wasn't molested... I am not offended, but I am worried that you say you are a father of daughters but also think it is ok to use things like sexual abuse in such a lax way. That kinda makes me sick, but to be honest I don't expect much else from you.
Second of all, I did finish school and I am not sure where you are getting your information. Actually, if I may brag a little, I graduated with honors and as valedictorian of my class, as well as receiving a five thousand dollar scholarship to travel abroad for a month. I actually did very well.
And as far as your comment on "familial dissatisfaction" goes, I love my family. They are infuriating at times, but I love my parents a lot, and honestly, I would choose them and their beliefs over someone like you. Honestly, I feel bad for anyone who has to share a bloodline with some one so mean.
So I guess what I am trying to say, you pretentious piece of shit, is maybe you don't know much of anything at all and should think before you talk.

Shortly after my last comment, I received an apology in my inbox from Mr. Munson. I feel like if I accomplish nothing in my life, at least I won this argument.